How horrible !
I don't know why but I have a nagging suspicion that there's more to this story than meets the eye.
The act of setting someone on fire seems too specific and violent for it to have been done without a motive.
vigil help for burney man who died after being set on fire.
community members shared their memories of wicks, a member of the jehovah's witness hall in burney.
many of them remember him from his post at the shell station, where he worked along with his wife.
How horrible !
I don't know why but I have a nagging suspicion that there's more to this story than meets the eye.
The act of setting someone on fire seems too specific and violent for it to have been done without a motive.
you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?
i know people who have done exactly this.
you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.
You guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right? I know people who have done exactly this. You have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.
Yes they'd have to find out that you committed a sin such as visiting apostate forums and providing information to assist currently attending JW 's to leave the organization without getting caught.
as someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!
why is this the case you may ask?.
if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.
The scores of JW's I know and am related to have a form of godly devotion but are proving false to it's power. The nod their heads in agreement while they are together but when the rubber hits the road, they do as they please and cover it up or find a way to excuse it.
Example: A Believer who likely sits in the meeting with a Halo over his/her head yet secretly visits apostate sites and engages in discussions, is therefore in reality, "worse than an unbeliever"
great article with charts showing how the world is getting better, despite the attempts of the news and certain religious groups to say it ain't so (or try and make it not).. https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts/.
.
@ A Believer.
Apparently you want to have it both ways. On one hand you agree with the good folks over at the Watchtower, who have been saying for 100 years, that we are living in the last days because of the "critical world conditions" . Now you are saying that the end is near because statistics point out things have improved. Which is it going to be??
No one is saying there is "peace and security" by any means, but these charts point out that statistically, things have improved in some areas. This is far cry from what the leaders of your doomsday cult will acknowledge.
P.S. Since you're quoting the Bible, it also talks about "wolves" who would enter in among the congregation. Seeing as how you pretend to be a faithful adherent of JW doctrine yet persist in go against the directive not to visit apostate websites and engage in discussions with opposers, I was wondering if you have noticed more of an urge to howl at the moon lately?
let's face it, we're all connected now.
we take it for granted that we access our bank accounts from our laptops or phones.
it's so convenient.
When Banking online, should a person hard connect directly to their router rather than using wireless?
due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
let's face it, we're all connected now.
we take it for granted that we access our bank accounts from our laptops or phones.
it's so convenient.
Thanks for the info,
I've typed in web addresses and then have been taken to a completely different site that turns out to be nothing but ads and offers. I've often wondered if it's possible to be directed to a fake website when you thought you were logging on to your own bank's website.
For example, you type in yournbanknamedotcom and are directed to an exact look alike page. You think you're at your banks website so you enter your username and password in the appropriate places like you usually do. It kicks you off the site or tells you there is a problem accessing your account. You leave the site and try again but the fake site now knows what your username and password is and know what bank its for.
Is that possible? I suppose if something suspicious like that happened, and you realized what was going on, you'd have to immediately change your banking passwords.
I also wonder if those password check sites you listed above, could somehow keep track of the passwords and usernames you checked on their site?
Also , I keep a draft email in my email account, that has all of my passwords. I've written them backwards and added a symbol at each end of the password, to confuse anyone who might somehow access my email account. Do you think that's safe enough?
i left in 2006. i seem to vaguely recall that the written review was no more but i can't say for sure.. so, do they still do it?
was (is) it a waste of time?
i used to hate it..
Ah yes....the rotten review. But for the sound of rustling bibles and the occasional cough, a hush would fall over the congregation. The mental activity and deep though was almost palpable...one would half expect to hear the Jeopardy theme song playing in the background.
I remember at our Hall they had these thin boards they used to hand out for you to lean on while you filled out the questions. A lot of the boards had graffiti and doodles on them, done I assume by bored teenagers over the decades ( AC/DC rules....Disco Sucks etc.)
Like an idiot I used to diligently fill out the questions and strove to get the right answers, until somewhere in early 2000 it dawned on me that all this stuff we were studying was little by little being changed no one gave a rip about the answers...it was all such a joke.
as a part of the wt judicial arrangement, for many years there was a sort of review procedure called special committee; basically if a person was not happy with a decision or a particular situation they were allowed to write a letter to the society raisin their concerns.. the majority of these complaints were answered with a standard letter with the counsel of “leave matters to jehovah”.
in some instances the matter was serious enough to warrant the need for a special investigation of the case to be done by a special committee.. at one time the travelling overseers were part of this arrangement; eventually they were dropped out of these cases due to the fact of their tremendous input on the decisions and also the implications when a wrong decision was reached.. the reason behind this procedure was that in matters that were really complicated it was not fair to make a decision based in letters and the clearest way was to have “boots on the ground”.
normally a group of local brothers, appointed for this duty heard the cases and make recommendations to the branch.
I have a long time friend who was on one of those "special committees" and allegedly dealt with child molestation cases. He was flown around to different places where complicated cases were being sorted out.
He is no longer a JW because he saw so many horrifying cases and was appalled at how they were handled.
He told me about one such case that involved some girls who allegedly were being molested by their JW father. One of the girls attempted suicide multiple times and another was hospitalized after a mental breakdown. After a time, the father was DF'd and even went to prison.
Allegedly, after the father served most of his sentence, he wanted to be reinstated so that he could go back to being a JW after he got out. The special committee voted on it and although it wasn't unanimous, he was reinstated. Allegedly, they wanted to send a letter of warning to the congregation that this guy would be attending their congregation once he was out of prison but the "society" forbade it. My friend sent a letter anyway on his own and allegedly, was removed for doing so. Shortly thereafter, he left the organization completely over this and some of the other alleged "goings on" that one sees at his level in the organization.
Although I use the word Allegedly for obvious reasons, this is how I knew, well before any of the bad press we see today was even out, that there was a big Pedo. problem brewing in the Organization
has anyone noticed how many jw's really seem to be rollin in it?
escpecially the elders, and they treat their subordinates like filthy gum on the bottom of their shoe?
just wondering because i too am poorer than poor and have spent a fourth of my life homeless already and i am 22.. another thing to consider is why domost of the population on this planet seem to hate the poor, even though we outnumber the middle class and the rich greatly?
I think you may be confusing Hate, with fear. I think when people see homeless or destitute ones, they realize that should something go wrong, they are looking at themselves and they don't like what they are seeing.
A lot of people, in order to cope with their fears about this, figure the poor ones did something wrong, must have made some bad choices or are somehow to blame for their circumstances. Sometimes this is true but often it isn't and to say that it isn't always their own fault, is the same as saying that they too could find themselves in the same circumstances, even though they think they're doing everything right.
JW's view the world as hopelessly lost and irredeemable and the only solution is total destruction and starting all over from scratch. This is a way of copping out...a way of feeling ok about not doing anything to help anyone who is in actual physical need, right now. They even view the support of organizations who help the poor etc, as a waste of time and as useless as putting a band-aid on Cancer, yet in their own time of need, they take full advantage of what the world has to offer.